Aventon Abound vs Velotric Packer 1

Aventon Abound vs Velotric Packer 1

I compare the Aventon Abound to the Velotric Packer 1. I go over the specs, then we add 100+lbs to them and do a road trip where we drag race them, climb a hill, brake test them, and see how far they will go before the battery dies.

Video Summary

Introduction

  • The video compares the “Velotric Packer 1” and the “Aventon Abound” cargo bikes.
  • Both bikes will be tested in various scenarios, including carrying loads, road performance, drag racing, hill climbing, and braking tests.

“Cargo bike versus cargo bike… we’re going to go over the different specs today but not only that… we’re going to take them out on the road… drag race them, do a hill climb… break test them, and then we’re going to see how far each one of these can go with that load on it.”

Specifications

  • Both bikes are class two e-bikes capable of reaching up to 20 miles per hour.
  • The Packer 1 can be unlocked for a top speed of 25 miles per hour.
  • The Packer 1 is priced at $1,899, while the Abound is priced at $1,999.
  • The Abound has a torque sensor and four levels of pedal assist, while the Packer 1 has a cadence sensor and five levels of pedal assist.

“Both of these e-bikes are class two which means… 20 miles an hour although the Packer one here can be unlocked to take you up to 25 miles an hour… the abound has a torque sensor and four levels of pedal assist and the Packer one has a Cadence Sensor and five levels of pedal assist.”

Bike Features

  • The Abound can accommodate riders from 4’11” to 6’3″, while the Packer 1 can handle riders from 5’3″ to 6’6″.
  • Both bikes come in multiple colors.
  • The Abound has a front rack with a 40-pound capacity, while the Packer 1 can hold up to 33 pounds.
  • The Abound’s back rack can hold 140 pounds, while the Packer 1’s can hold 176 pounds.

“The Abound can handle Riders from 411 to 6-3 and the Packer one here can handle Riders from five three to six six… each bite comes in two colors… the abound can hold 40 pounds on the front and the Packer one can hold 33 pounds… the back rack on the abound holds 140 pounds while the back rack on the Packer one holds 176 pounds.”

Mileage and Battery

  • The Packer 1 can travel up to 45 miles with throttle only and 52 miles with pedal assist.
  • The Abound can travel up to 20 miles with throttle only and 50 miles with pedal assist.
  • The Abound has a 15 amp-hour battery with 720 watt output, while the Packer 1 has a 14.4 amp-hour battery with 662 watt-hour.

“The Packer one will do 45 miles throttle only or 52 miles via pedal assist… the abound says it’ll do 20 miles via throttle only and 50 miles using pedal assist… the abound over here has a 15 amp-hour with a 720 watt output battery and the Packer one has a 14.4 amp-hour with 662 watt-hour battery in it.”

Brakes and Suspension

  • Both bikes have 180-millimeter rotors and an adjustable front suspension.
  • The Abound has a two-piston brake system, while the Packer 1 has a four-piston brake system.
  • The Abound has 50 millimeters of suspension play, while the Packer 1 has 80 millimeters.

“Both of these bikes have 180 millimeter rotors while the abound here has a two-piston brake system the Packer one has a four-piston brake system… both of these bikes have an adjustable front suspension the abound has 50 millimeters of play the Packer has 80 millimeters of play and both of them can be locked out.”

Tire Size and Storage

  • The Abound has 20″ by 2.4″ tires on both front and rear, while the Packer 1 has a 26″ by 2.4″ front tire and a 20″ by 3″ rear tire.
  • Both bikes come with a storage compartment, with the Packer 1’s compartment being lockable.
  • The Abound’s front rack and back rack can hold 140 pounds and 176 pounds respectively.

“The abound has a 20 by 2.4 inch tire that is on the front and the rear while the Packer one has a 26 by 2.4 inch tire on the front but it has a 20 inch by 3 inch tire on the rear… the one here on the Packer one is lockable with a three-digit code… the back rack on the abound holds 140 pounds while the back rack on the Packer one holds 176 pounds.”

Unique Features

  • The Abound has a collapsible stem, dropper seat post, color display, brake lights, dual turn signals, and footboards. It also supports accessories like panniers and back racks.
  • The Packer 1 has an adjustable stem, Apple Find My feature, color display, brake lights, and supports purchasing additional footboards. It does not have turn signals.

“Each one of these bikes has some serious unique features… the abound over here has a collapsible stem, a dropper seat post, it has a color display, you have brake lights and dual turn signals, it comes standard with foot boards and you can get panniers and back racks and things like that for this bike… when it comes to the Packer one well you have this adjustable stem right here… it has Apple Find My which allows you to track your bike using your Apple iPhone in case it gets stolen or lost… and this bike also has brake lights but it comes on every time you turn the bike on so the brake light lights up when you turn the bike on but there are no turn signals.”

“On the abound over here it has a collapsible stem, you have a dropper seat post, it has a color display, you have brake lights and dual turn signals… features such as on the abound over here it has a collapsible stem, you have a dropper seat post it has a color display you have brake lights and dual turn signals it comes standard with foot boards and you can get panniers and back racks and things like that for this bike… when it comes to the Packer one well you have this adjustable stem right here so you can adjust it however you want it also has Apple find my which allows you to track your bike using your Apple iPhone in case it gets stolen or lost there is a single color display here on the dash it does not come standard with the foot boards but you can purchase them additionally and these racks that they have these baskets come with this cover that goes all the

First Race: Aventon Abound vs Velotric Packer 1

  • The rider wants payback because the Velotric Packer 1 blew ahead of him in the first race.
  • The races are conducted using throttle pedal-assist only.

“I think I need some payback because he blew ahead of me on the first one” “No, no throttle, pedal-assist only racing”

Impressions of the Aventon Abound

  • The rider feels that the Aventon Abound rides better than expected, considering its weight and other conditions.
  • The rider is still getting used to the movement in the handlebars and the balancing of the weight.

“How do you feel on this bike, given the weight and all the other conditions? It’s actually riding better than I may have thought” “The balancing of the weight, yeah, yeah, but you can see why people like these bikes. You can throw your kids on the back and then you can just go for a while”

Hill Climb Test

  • The riders engage in a throttle-only hill climb race.
  • The Velotric Packer 1 beats the Aventon Abound, but the race is close.

“Battle of the ages! Alright, maybe not. But, uh, we’ll have the Aventon to the right, I’ll be on the left. It’s going to be throttle only up the hill with this weight. You ready? I am. Three, two, one. Let’s race” “Wow, you blew me away, man. Dude, this bike’s a lot faster. Yeah, it is. It’s got way more power”

Comparison of Cargo Bike Design

  • The Aventon Abound is designed with supportive floorboards under the panniers to handle the weight, while the Velotric Packer 1 lacks such support.

“Since these are the Aventon panniers, they designed them to where these floorboards would give support to the weight that is inside of these panniers. But since Velotric hasn’t designed their own, well, these really aren’t providing any support, so I wanted you guys to be aware of that”

Brake Test: Aventon Abound vs Velotric Packer 1

  • The riders test the braking performance of the bikes to see which one stops faster.
  • The Velotric Packer 1 has a four-piston brake system, while the Aventon Abound does not specify.

“We’re gonna go as fast as we can. We’re already hitting 20 miles an hour” “Still not as good as it should be. 14 feet. How are you beating me?”

Riding Experience and Battery Life

  • The rider finds the seat of the Velotric Packer 1 more comfortable and experiences more stability in the handlebars, especially with the weight. The pedal assist also provides a bigger jump.
  • The Aventon Abound’s color display is not great in direct sunlight, but its battery performs well compared to the Velotric Packer 1.

“The big thing was the seat, I mean, the seat was just way more comfortable. I noticed a lot more stability in the handlebars” “The Velotric Packer one is the first one to run out of battery power at 24.1 miles. The Aventon still has five percent battery power left, so it might really come ahead here on how far it can go”

Riding with low battery and switching out batteries

  • The rider comments that he is not sure if the bike is providing all its power.
  • Despite the low battery, the rider is still able to cruise comfortably at a decent speed.
  • However, due to the weight on the bike, the battery drains quickly, and they need to switch out batteries to continue riding.
  • The rider expresses the desire to have more speed and ease in getting home, which they hope the new battery will provide.

“I’m not sure it’s giving me all of it, but I’m still cruising at a comfortable rate. For the amount of weight that we have on this bike, we’re down to two percent battery power. We’re not going to make it to our destination because of the weight, so we need to switch out the batteries.”

Riding on throttle and running out of battery

  • The rider switches to using the throttle only to continue moving on a one percent battery.
  • The bike continues to move, but eventually, the battery completely runs out.
  • The rider acknowledges that the heavy weight on the bike made it difficult to pedal without battery assistance.
  • They decide to switch out the battery to continue the journey.

“Right now, we’re using throttle only, and we’re still moving at one percent battery power. We are cruising right by Lollapalooza here in Chicago. It’s official, we are out of battery juice. This bike is too much weight for me to try to pedal myself.”

Troubles with battery and getting it to work

  • The rider attempts to change the bike’s battery, but encounters some difficulty.
  • They realize that the battery cover does not match because they borrowed a battery from another bike.
  • The rider explains the process of turning on the bike with the older battery, requiring an additional step.
  • However, after resolving some issues, they successfully get the bike back to full battery power.

“The battery cover doesn’t match because I’m using a battery from my other bike. Normally, you just hit the center button to turn it on, but since I’m using an older battery, I have to hit the power button first. In the review video, this is not good at all. That is going to be a serious issue. We’re probably about eight miles from home. We’re going to pop it out, put it back in, and see if that actually fixes the issue. Please, please, please, talk to me! We are in the game! That could have been catastrophic. I’m so glad we don’t have to figure out how to get this bike back without any battery power.”

Comparison and Rider Preference

  • The rider reflects on their overall experience and the performance of both bikes.
  • The VeloTrick Packer tapped out at 24 miles, while the Aventon Abound made it to 26 miles before needing a battery replacement.
  • The rider’s preference leans towards the Packer due to its comfort, including a more comfortable seat and sturdy handlebars.
  • They note that the Aventon Abound was faster and had better uphill performance but lacked the same level of overall comfort.
  • The rider emphasizes that the choice between the two bikes depends on the individual’s preferences and the type of ride they are looking for.

“I think Dan did a really good job of riding these bikes considering he’d never ridden a cargo bike before, let alone an electric cargo bike with a bunch of weight on the back. When it came to distance, The Velotric Packer tapped out first at 24 miles. The Aventon Abound made it to 26 miles before we had to replace the battery. I would probably go with the Packer. The seat on that is much more comfortable, and the handlebars felt more solid, especially with the weight. Although the Aventon was quicker, I get why you feel that way. It’s faster, it pulls up the hill harder, and it goes a little bit farther. But if you want something sturdier and more comfortable, the Packer might be right for you.”

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